"hopesome" is moderating the session - on the mic at the moment:
Hopesome is introducing other podcasters: wang wei, ken, leo (Liu) and baixiaoyu



They're going to have an interactive discussion on podcasting which may not have any real outcome but hopes to cover issues of common concern.

Hopesome starts off with first question:
Podcasting is it a very new thing?

(guy #1) A guy comes up to podium, introduces himself as jack who is a former microsoft employee and does some stuff related to podcasting. He joins the panel.
He's doing a new podcasting site.

According to hopesome podcast is the next generation of broadcasting.

(guy #2): its a way for people to express their own voices
(guy #3): podcasting as extension of blogs, with the ability to do multimedia
(guy #4): technology advances give us the opportunity to express ourselves in new ways
(guy #5): easier to express through voice than through text
(guy #6): podcast is extension of blog

Hopesome asks how many people in the room are podcasters. about 10 raise their hands




He asks jack (#1) about the state of podcasting in china:
jack says theyre still in early stage here, in the states they've only been going for about a year. Theres probably 10-20 thousand chinese podcasters. Its not as intense as bloggers. Jack hopes they will eventually become a more habitual mode of expression.

Hopesome: itunes has caused podcasts to increase?
(#2) tudou replies: podcasting here is different than in the u.s. Many of the podcasts are just fun
but there are some interesting things, like one guy has been reading out each article of criminal law one by one into the podcasts.

(applause)

Using it as an educational tool.

Tudou gives some other examples of how people are using podcasts differently, recording conquests w/ girls, etc.


Hopesome continues asking questions, and asks bai xiaoyu what he thinks:

Bai Xiaoyu replies: everybody now has personal channel & its an issue of copyright.




At this point the podcasters are starting to argue about who has coppyright and who doesn't.

Its not like only pop stars and famous people have copyright
You have to respect people who do or don't want you to use their material
There isnt necessarily a direct relationship between podcast and music

Hopesome asks about fair use question:

bxy says: stop viewing yourself as a consumer. you are a creator
we cant think that only those authors and pop stars have copyright
the copyright laws aren't made to fit the current situation
they treat us all like consumers they dont anticipate that were all creators
but hes not encouraging people to pirate the popstars music he advocates ignoring it

question: how do you control your material
answer: political stuff pretty much all gets taken off
the porn is not hard to police
one guy points out - its amazing the extent to which chinese people are now willing to put photos of themselves and each other online

question: do you automate policing or human?
answer: you need people to do it. based on "i know it when i see it" principle





Guy #2: when web first existed in china there were a lot of people wanted to control but so far no big website has been shut down due to content posted on it. He says that the issue of controlling content is an issue but not insurmountable while big sites not shut down, smaller ones have been. This also has to do w/ the way in which big sites cooperate w/ authorities

Question of the cost of monitoring once volume increases: the filtering of text uses keywords, how do you use keywords for audio?

tudou says: once you get to a certain point there will be no way to control it all, nobody can stop this flow - unstoppable trend.



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